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Poster: billydlions Date: June 01, 2007 05:33:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

If Rhino were smart they would find something that would please both crowds. If what GOP says is correct, then the crowd of non web users wont care what they release. I on the other hand have close to 1000 cds that I've burned and am not about to buy a show that I already have a good copy of. If they were to release something that doesnt exist in a nice board or aud, then I would be the first to pay up. Let's see something like 9-11-81 and 9-12-81 come out. Unfortunately, I'm guessing that most of these shows are not in the vault. By the way, there are so many great JGB shows that are of medicore quality that I would pay for. I wonder if these shows are locked away somehere?? Maybee Deborah Koons will start running low on cash.....

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: June 01, 2007 05:47:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

To add to my own comments: it is clear that so many of you die hards HAVE most of what you would like to have or will dl it in the future. This really rules many of you out as active customers as you have expressed he unliklihood of purchasing what you already have. So, as unliklely customers, you are (no offense) not at the top of their list.

Who does that leave? A) Those of us who like to have official versions and the other 50,000 heads who do not post here. It's a large pond to go fishing in. We are not the fish that Rhino seeks to catch. Even though we are diehards. But as diehards, we go fishing in the great pond called the internet, so Rhino should be relatively irrelevant to us as well!

Maybe something else: 3 from the Vault is 10 years overdue. When they did the project, the archives was young--much of this wasn't out there. So, if they pick up where GDP left off, they will obviously be behind the curve.


Finally--what's left out there that is great and not available as a nice sb and was recorded in 16 glorious tracks? Only the shows recorded for various live lps are in 16 track. So we are limited by what is good enough soundwise, good enough playing wise, good enough rare wise, good enough interest wise, and we are left with very, very little to choose from. What we have are some more 1969 stuff from around the time of Live?Dead, the Spring 1971 shows (including 2-19-71), Europe 72, The 1980 Fall shows, the retirement shows (released), some 1989-90 shows---not all of the Vault meets the criteria for the Vault series. And there are plenty of clunkers in the digital years.

So: Is 2-19- a worthy show in and of itself?
Does it sound great?
Would you buy it if you didn't have it or couldn't dl it?

Can you name other 16 track shows that deserve better attention that are not already out there?

Talk about DPs--different subject, as there are many two track shows that have yet to see the light of day. The aborted Winterland 73 was 2 track. This is a different animal.

My point is that in the context of the larger pond (there are what--30 regular posters here?) of 50,000 heads, many of whom do not spend their lives downloading incessantly. They like the idea of occasional treats coming their way. Add to that those who love the earlier dead--they'll swallow it up.

be patient; surely more stuff from other 16 track runs will emerge in time. Otherwise, switch this thread to 2 track releases and talk about whether the DP series is a good one and whether they have picked good shows for that.

BTW-most of the other live releases--non DP are multitrack and really should be called From the Vault 4, 5, 6, etc. Like Hundred year Hall, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.

And, finally, the download series seemed to be an attempt to quench the thirst for unavailable shows.

Seems to me like they are doing a good job.

Alternative? Stop the program altogether.
Alternative 2? Don't buy what you don't want.
Alternative three(My favorite)? Light up a doobie and listen to 4-17-72. Do it right now!!!!!!!

How many of you bought the F.East 2-13-14 DP or Harpur--despite already having it? They were so much better than the available tapes--I had both for years and jumpedon the Dp versions.

Back to the point. The Vault series in limited by what was done in 16 track, what were good to excellent concerts, what they think their larger audience wants to have, and what the band feels is good material as well.

Viva Vault #3!

And let's hope Vault 4 materializes and makes more of you happy!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: June 01, 2007 06:16:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

agreed, agreed, agreed, ad infinitum with your verbose and well-argued post; i for one purchsed the Cow Palace show, even though i already had the show in decent lossless; while i can respect folks who disagree (or agree) with whatever show Rhino chooses for the next commercial release, there is this continued nagging feeling in the back of my head that whatever the opinion of we here on the forums and the torrent sites, it's just one small segment, and Rhino has to attempt to rake out a profit from more than just this one, possibly smaller, segment of the deadhead population

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: June 01, 2007 07:34:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

billyd ... i can't tell how lovely it would be if many of those JGB shows were released commercially, i would probably snatch up every one; which isn't to say that i am unhappy with the many great audience sources i pretty much daily listen to, but i think you'll agree, that there are many, many Jerry shows that have not seen light in the digital world!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: June 01, 2007 10:22:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

i'm with you man - got hudredes of boards - give me something different

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Poster: cush212 Date: June 01, 2007 10:35:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

Off topic, but not a hijacking...

Package arrived safely today... Thanks Wolf, will catch up via email later on or on the morrow...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: June 01, 2007 10:39:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

glad it arrived brother - talk to you soon man

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Poster: cush212 Date: June 01, 2007 10:46:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Regarding Deadheads: Serious Question

I'm going to try to get Di to Grok tomorrow night... She had fun last week, even participated... I wonder if we can be different people on the same computer? All is well on your end I hope... Gotta pick something to listen too now, I've got an advance copy of the Monterey Pop Festival cd here, hmmmmmmm...


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